FT: Do you want to start by paying tribute to Michael Jackson, Peter? Everyone else seems to be doing that.
PM: I’m not absolutely sure who Michael Jackson is. Is he the ... he’s called Jacko, isn’t he?
FT: I believe so, in the idiom, yeah.
PM: No, I don’t want to say anything about him, although I once nearly met him in Berlin. Anyway, what I want to talk to you about…
Hmm.
(Then there’s some stuff about politics and that.)
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